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[–] tervacious 94 points (+94|-0)

...and everyone will be like oh it's Mississippi, so backward! And blue states will double down and write some bizarro woke laws enshrining TIMs in girls sports but with some extra woman-hating flavor that will pass with 100% of the dems voting for it. Even though with everything else dems don't agree on anything and wind up splintering before getting anything passed. emits 10 min long sigh

[–] chromodorisrex 61 points (+61|-0)

This is such a mood. I’m so happy for these girls to get to keep their spaces and sports, but you’re absolutely right, they’ll dig heels in hard over this. Who knew it would be the liberals cheering for the swift death of women’s sports. Such feminism.

[–] Verdandi 29 points (+29|-0)

Oh wow, it's like you've been eavesdropping on my state legislators!

[–] NewMa 22 points (+22|-0) Edited

WE MUST PROTECT THE MEN ATHLETICALLY GIFTED TRANS WOMEN!

tHeY'Re oPpReSsEd.

[–] NotCis 14 points (+14|-0)

I know right? How are all the TW soooo naturally gifted? Must be their work ethic because it cannot possibly be anything else!

[–] hmimperialtortie 80 points (+80|-0)

Good.

This pasted tweet said it well: “I don’t understand why politicians are pushing children into transgenderism in the first place. I certainly don’t understand why the President chose to make it a priority. And my heart breaks for the young women across America who will lose in this radical social experiment.”

[–] mrh2 21 points (+21|-0) Edited

I did some incredibly stupid and potentially life threatening things when I was 25, and also 30. I was surprisingly stupid then and didn't realize it in my arrogance. I can't imagine letting a teenager make a permanent life altering decision like transgender surgery. Teenagers are far far stupider than people in their late 20s, they just haven't lived long enough and they are only starting to figure out who they are. Allowing them to get mutilated is child abuse. We wouldn't allow them to have hysterectomy at age 16, so how is gender surgery allowed. It is insane and is 100% abuse. We don't allow adults to have sex with 16 year olds, yet we allow adults to manipulate psychologically fragile 16 year olds into irreversibly mutilating their bodies. Who allowed this criminal behaviour to become mainstream and acceptable?

[–] Carrots90 12 points (+12|-0)

I did some incredibly stupid and potentially life threatening things when I was 25, and also 30. I was surprisingly stupid then and didn't realize it in my arrogance.

Stop posting my diary excerpts/s

[–] RawSienna 9 points (+9|-0)

The gender lobby did much of it by stealth, and by suppressing dissent of those who were onto them. People are finally cluing in to what is going on in spite of this.

[–] BathMat 3 points (+3|-0)

Most tattoo artists make ethical decisions about what requested tattoos they will do or not, taking into account things like age and the likelihood of serious regrets. How are doctors not capable of the same responsible attitude? I definitely feel as if I had a different personality before the age of 24-25, when we have fully developed frontal lobes. Some people are sensible and mature teenagers, but most of us weren't and are thankful that our former risk-taking approval-driven selves were constrained by at least minimal boundaries that left us something to work with for our remaining decades of life!

[–] Srfthrowaway 4 points (+4|-0)

Does anyone know what kind of regulations apply to tattoo artists? Because as a GP I'm required to refer these patients to gender clinic.

Required.

What happens once they get there is supremely unethical bordering on evil though.

I wish gender clinics were a self-referral thing so I wouldn't be stuck like this.

[–] SulphuricMirror 2 points (+2|-0)

Wow, your right, as long as heath and 'medicine' are tied to $$$, we'll literally always be in a situation where tattoo artists are more ethical than doctors (and it's not like tattoos are free, either).

And for what it's worth, I live in a country with socialized healthcare and while it's not as bad as the US, there is still a huge profit motive, especially behind drugs, socialization seems to only slow down the profits, but it doesn't eliminate the whole profit motive, sadly. I feel like as long as anyone makes money offa this shit we're always gonna have to deal with this. Literally pharm execs were saying 15ish years ago that hormones were gonna be the next big profitable drug, and look at us now.

[–] NotCis 64 points (+64|-0)

The headline is so misleading. It bans BOYS from competing on girls' teams, not ALL trans-identifying teens. This kind of deceptive headline is so fucking annoying because then we have to defend against constant straw man arguments (no, we don't want to "ban transgender students from sports" - we want boys to play on the boys' teams).

[–] vauqueline 42 points (+42|-0)

It really just goes to show that no one gives a flying fuck about any trans other than XY trans. What does that look like, again? Oh yeah...misogyny!

[–] bellatrixbells 24 points (+24|-0)

To be fair, we'd also advocate for TIFs on T to stay out of women's sports, but that's another story.

[–] Womancup 10 points (+10|-0)

Is advocating for this necessary? I thought they are automatically excluded for doping. But who knows.

[–] worried19 6 points (+6|-0)

Exactly. No one fucking cares if natal girls play on boys' teams.

Also I hate how it's framed as an issue of "children." We're not talking about 5 year olds or 10 year olds. We're talking about natal male athletes competing in high school sports. Post-puberty. Therein lies the issue. If this was about elementary school, no one would care.

[–] KBash 2 points (+2|-0)

Not true. Prepubescent boys have a notable throwing advantage over prepubescent girls, and even over grown women. It’s biological and innate to the male sex.

[–] worried19 2 points (+2|-0)

Well, I guess I would amend that. Still, far fewer people would care. Any differences are much less noticeable before puberty. Lots of girls play on boys' teams when they're kids. I played soccer, baseball, and basketball on boys' teams, and football in my spare time, and I was a good athlete and competitive. I did not notice any differences until puberty between myself and boys.

Prepubescent boys have a notable throwing advantage over prepubescent girls, and even over grown women.

10 year old boys can throw better than grown women? Do you have a source? I have read some articles on this topic, but I haven't seen anything like that. I keep seeing age 15 mentioned, which would make sense because that's post puberty.

[–] BeachLover 35 points (+35|-0)

I HATE that only red states like Mississippi are doing this and blue states are all in on erasing women.

[–] trashgoblin_frnk 32 points (+32|-0)

"These bills are not addressing any real problem, and they’re not being requested by constituents,” the LGBTQ advocacy group said in a statement.

That statement is so misleading. It's unfair to say that nobody's requesting legislation that keeps TIMs out of women's sports when it's been very clearly demonstrated that dissent will bear heavy consequences.

[–] MyBodyMyself 22 points (+22|-0)

I don’t feel hugely optimistic about this sticking in today’s political climate... not to be gloomy, but I have a sinking feeling that they will just get blasted as bigoted TERFs and all the TRA’s and organizations with big money — including the UCLU and goodness knows who else — will just swoop in and try to twist their arms — which will be easy to do if they have Trans-women athletes doing the twisting... they seem to have a depressingly limitless amount of political clout in a way that normal so-called “cis” women never had... probably because they’re all men or men-sympathizers

Oh — and besides... it’s misleading anyway... it simply bans actual boys from competing with girls, not all Trans-women from competing in women’s sports... which is different than how this is portrayed (as another poster commented).

So I’m not feeling like giving three big cheers to this unless it had real backbone and real momentum to affect change

[–] WatcherattheGates 13 points (+13|-0)

"they seem to have a depressingly limitless amount of political clout in a way that normal so-called “cis” women never had... probably because they’re all men or men-sympathizers"

Well said.

[–] bellatrixbells 21 points (+21|-0)

"These bills are not addressing any real problem, and they’re not being requested by constituents,” the LGBTQ advocacy group said in a statement. “Rather, this effort is being driven by national far-right organizations attempting to sow fear and hate.”"

LOL Such a lie !! Why is it that they can only convince anyone of anything through lying ?

What about the TIM-pandering state senator who published a letter from a constituent telling her that she didn't give a shit ?

And what are the national far-right organizations who are orchestrating this "effort" ?

They don't even try to back-up their bullshit. They just throw in some buzzwords and think it's sufficient.

[–] littleowl12 28 points (+28|-0) Edited

Yeah, women and girls don't count as real constituents, amirite?

Mississippi is a very poor state. One of he poorest states in the US. For a lot of kids, including girls, a sports scholarship is their only shot at higher education. It's just not right to stack the deck against them any more than it already is.

[–] HessaHein 15 points (+15|-0)

Good news! I just hope violence doesn't erupt from this.

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