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https://imgur.com/a/xFC9vdd

This is especially stupid.

Crudely drawn crying man: "Nooooo you can't just change your gender to rule!"

Queen Hatshepsut: "My pronouns are your majesty."

So for the TRA idiot who thought this was clever: Hatshepsut was not a man. Not on the outside, not on the inside. She was all woman. 100%. If you're a TIM, she is more female now with her trace DNA than you will ever be. Let that sink in. If a TIF set this up, she did everything a man could do without one shot of T. Let that sink in, too.

Pharaoh Hatshepsut had to put on this preposterous display to enforce her right to rule in a monarchy. With not a lick of gratitude from her male subjects, she did an excellent job. She re-established trade routes that made Egypt rich. Her buildings were phenomenal. Some of the finest in Egypt.

Her step-son, once he took over, had most of her public images defaced. And lately, historians have been giving him credit for not destroying all of them.

The historical lesson of this is that due to Ma'at principles, men thought it was better to have a less capable male ruler than an excellent female one. (Even though Ma'at was a goddess). Hatshepsut embarrassed the priestly class. She embarrassed the monarchy simply by doing a good job with her lady brain. She embarrassed men by achieving what they hadn't lately.

Stop. Transing. The. Dead.

https://imgur.com/a/xFC9vdd This is especially stupid. Crudely drawn crying man: "Nooooo you can't just change your gender to rule!" Queen Hatshepsut: "My pronouns are your majesty." So for the TRA idiot who thought this was clever: Hatshepsut was not a man. Not on the outside, not on the inside. She was all woman. 100%. If you're a TIM, she is more female now with her trace DNA than you will ever be. Let that sink in. If a TIF set this up, she did everything a man could do without one shot of T. Let that sink in, too. Pharaoh Hatshepsut had to put on this preposterous display to enforce her right to rule in a monarchy. With not a lick of gratitude from her male subjects, she did an excellent job. She re-established trade routes that made Egypt rich. Her buildings were phenomenal. Some of the finest in Egypt. Her step-son, once he took over, had most of her public images defaced. And lately, historians have been giving him credit for not destroying all of them. The historical lesson of this is that due to Ma'at principles, men thought it was better to have a less capable male ruler than an excellent female one. (Even though Ma'at was a goddess). Hatshepsut embarrassed the priestly class. She embarrassed the monarchy simply by doing a good job with her lady brain. She embarrassed men by achieving what they hadn't lately. Stop. Transing. The. Dead.

64 comments

[–] Bunn 49 points (+49|-0)

I'm so sick of them trying to steal our historical and mythological figures. They even try to claim Aphrodite as trans. Sorry that your fetish isn't represented enough in history for you, but fuck off.

[–] clouds 18 points (+18|-0)

They even try to claim Aphrodite as trans

I want to ask what the logic on that is but I also don't want to be really really mad right now, lol

[–] [Deleted] 14 points (+14|-0)

My wild guess is that people are referring to Hesiod's Theogony, where Aphrodite was born from Uranus's severed genitals, and by their logic could only be a biological male beautiful trans woman uwu

[–] questioningtw 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

Lol, Aphrodite the transguy that is the god of love....you know what FINE. But only if she is a transguy. I am so sick of how predictable they are*

*Yes i am aware that they probablty mean the other way, and I am trying to be funny.

They have also tried saying that Athena was trans...even though being a female goddess of war was very much part of her identity.

Well you know obviously she couldnt have female DNA because she doesn’t have a mother. /s

I also like to point out that Athena is both the goddess of war and wisdom. She’s all about strategy, unlike Ares who is only about violence.

[–] Alexiares 4 points (+4|-0)

And just like the male ancient Greeks, they like to conveniently "forget" that to pretend to birth Athena from his head, Zeus had to swallow Athena's pregnant mother Metis first!

[–] questioningtw 1 points (+1|-0)

Correct! She was also originally just the Goddess of Wisdom and even handcrafts; but then the more patriarichal Greeks, made her a soldier as well. Acting like any Greek God or Goddess is trans is really absurd, they created them as male or female on purpose.

[–] Veneficca 48 points (+48|-0)

Transing the dead is always infuriating, but especially with Hatshepsut. She inspired me so deeply when I found out about her (which was by accident, in the library as a kid.) They just can't stop themselves from trying to steal everything strong and impressive about womanhood, including our history.

[–] questioningtw 12 points (+12|-0)

Me too. Her, Kathrine Hepburn, Joan of Arc and Florence Nightengale are the ones that infuriate me the most/, it is almost like they don't want girls to have any women to look up too.

[–] levitation 6 points (+6|-0)

The girls get to look up to the women promoting sex work and "bimboism" on tiktok, of course!

[–] questioningtw 3 points (+3|-0)

Of course! Feminism now is about telling non conforming girls that they aren't really girls; and trying to end bimbo and sex work stigma! When people bring up how second wave feminists actually got stuff done; just say "ok boomer"

Can you tell I am really, really over neo-liberal feminism?

[–] livethruthis 0 points (+0|-0)

The Joan of Arc transing is so infuriating to me. There was a drawing someone did going around on Tumblr of Joan of Arc with scars on her chest, like she had top surgery done. I thought it was ridiculously insulting.

I have never even heard of them trying to assert Katherine Hepburn was trans?? WTF??

[–] questioningtw 0 points (+0|-0)

Joan of Arc was a religious zealot that saw herself as almost a savior of France. There was an actual prophecy going around, basically saying that a maiden was going to save France and she took it too heart. She never even lived as a man and she never fought in battle; she did however act as an advisory and boosted moral. She also saw herself as a female Christian Martyr. Just becase a popular writer says she is trans, doesn't make it so.

Here is the sorry feminists, Kathrine Hepburn was totally a man article: https://www.advocate.com/politics/commentary/2006/11/20/katharine-hepburn-leading-man

Note: she actualy said in her own biography that SHE never felt like Jimmie, but TRAS gloss over that and are trying to assert she was transgender; even though, once again, she never even lived as a man, ever.

[–] tugarights 33 points (+33|-0)

Why do they always try to erase the strong women in History who had to overcome sex based oppression by going against what was expected from women.

[–] Riothamus xy 25 points (+25|-0)

Because that goes against their narrative in which women are only allowed to be strong if they identify as men.

[–] tugarights 18 points (+18|-0)

Thank God I had a female professor in university that talked about Hatshepsut and made sure to explain why she was represented as a male in some occasions. This idea of her being trans just seems like another historical myth that will hopefully die down

[–] questioningtw 5 points (+5|-0)

This is why we need to keep calling it out, instead of just letting them act like they have the right to trans the dead.

[–] orchidea 16 points (+16|-0)

At this rate, we can all trans our own personal histories. Any achievement outside of the domestic sphere? I guess we (women) were just trans on those days, because women don't aspire or achieve, silly!

Or like the tree falling in the woods - and whether it makes a sound if no one is there to hear it -- maybe we women are all just 'trans' in any moment there is no man around to notice us, or in any moment we are not thinking of a man, or talking about one. Anything we say, anything we do, anything we think, wherever we breathe and exist, if it is not performing some man's one dimensional stereotype of us? We were not women, we were trans.

[–] Calpurnia 14 points (+15|-1)

Two things:

  1. They can't stand seeing a woman succeed.

  2. They have to shoehorn themselves into everything to make themselves feel valid. "Muh representation!"

[–] questioningtw 6 points (+6|-0)

It is really, really telling that they never try to trans evil or even pathetic historical women isn't it? It is always the Calamity Janes, the Willa Cathers and the James Barrys. It really shows their misogyny.

[–] livethruthis 1 points (+1|-0)

I mean, they’re literally appropriating womanhood for themselves, so why not erase our history and rewrite it for themselves too?

[–] Annie09 25 points (+25|-0)

They act like all their ideology didn't appear less than 20 years ago. When I went to highschool there were about 1000 kids. 0 trans. 0 non-binary( wasn't even a word ), 0 gender-specials at all. There were barely any lgb people even. I'm sure some weren't out but there were maybe 4-5 lesbians, 2-3 bi girls (myself included) and 2 gay guys. I highly doubt Hatsheput was anything other than a woman having to take on male accoutrements to survive and rule in the time that she did.

[–] Researcher1536 20 points (+20|-0)

"But it's more SoCiAlLy AcCePtAbLe now!!!" No, it's a narcissistic fad.

[–] Stealthygal 10 points (+10|-0)

In thar case why no suicides? In that case why have none of the girls I went to school with who had eating disorders (the hot contagion at the time) come out as trans now it's allowed?

Why indeed.

[–] Tnetennba 6 points (+6|-0)

According to their narrative shouldn't we be seeing a steep drop in suicides because treatment is (freely) available nowadays?

[–] KBash 4 points (+4|-0)

It’s the opposite of more socially acceptable to be anything that’s actually radical or revolutionary, when it comes to sexual politics; where do they think that leaves their movement? 🧐

[–] questioningtw 4 points (+4|-0)

In high school in the 90s, we had 2 open gay guys and maybe 1 woman. And this was in Utah. If there were so many of them in the past then where are they?

[–] hatshepsut 21 points (+21|-0)

when i saw this is thought you were talking about me, as in my profile lmao. i could go on for HOURS about this. the transing of hatshepsut i deeply wrong, fucked up and sexist. she was a female ruler in a long lineage of male rulers, a rare monarch in patriarchy. her architecture feats were phenomenal. i fucking hate people for demeaning her value as a pharoah.

[–] littleowl12 [OP] 20 points (+20|-0)

This stupid comment in the place I found this: "For everyone asking. Hatshepsut was one of the few female Pharaoh, she rose to power after becoming queen regent and finally a full fledged pharaoh. She ordered to be represented as male in sculptures and paintings, with a beard and muscles. We don't know enough to know if she was trans, gay or just had odd artistic ideas, but we do know she decided to make sure she was represented as a man."

Hugs and likes all around.

[–] shewolfoffrance 7 points (+7|-0)

So stupid. She's not the first female ruler to adopt male attributes to legitimize her reign. In her speech before the Spanish Armada, Elizabeth I rhetorically distanced herself from her sex to bolster her military. "I may have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the heart and stomach of a king." In the modern day, Margaret Thatcher and Elizabeth Holmes both consciously moderated the way they spoke to come across as serious and intelligent, instead of "shrill."

[–] ComplicatedSpirit 18 points (+18|-0)

She literally described herself as a woman. The most beautiful of women, in typical Egyptian fashion.

Transing her is a slap in the face to Hatshepsut, to the Ancient Egyptians, and to any woman or girl who wants to be anything besides a submissive shadow.

[–] Riothamus xy 14 points (+14|-0)

They can claim Elagabalus but they can't celebrate him too much since he was a shitty immature Emperor who cared more about his sex life than running the Roman God Damned Empire.

Likewise, gays don't celebrate Sulla (bloodthirsty tyrant), Hadrian (pedophile who committed genocide against the Jews), or James Buchanan (whose incompetency directly led to the Civil War). At least they stopped trying to claim Abe Lincoln was gay after about 2010.

Abraham Lincoln probably was bisexual to be fair; there is some evidence in romantic letters.

[–] Hermione 5 points (+6|-1)

Nah, sharing beds wasn’t that uncommon back then, especially for limited beds.

And everyone wrote particularly flowery in those times. Men, women, dachshunds, you name it.

I’d beat each and every one of them for their lunch money, let’s put it that way.

[–] Stealthygal 7 points (+7|-0)

It's really hard to tell, isn't it. Romantic friendship was also normalised so it's difficult to know whether these people did have same sex sexual relationships or not. Assuredly some would have.

[–] questioningtw 1 points (+1|-0)

I actually have seen some TIMS celebrate that emperor, and even use him as their user names.

[–] CacaoGudem 13 points (+13|-0)

People have always accused female rulers like Hatshepsut and Elizabeth I as well as strong women like suffragettes/suffragists of being too manly or secretly being men. It is ridiculous, insulting, and an age old tactic. TRAs just recycle old bigotry to make it look progressive

[–] CruelEnnui 12 points (+12|-0)

Ugh, they've been claiming she was trans for quite a while now. Remember that time when Amnesty tried to trans her?

[–] Proserpina 9 points (+9|-0)

Love how they say "presented herself as a king" as if she was just identifying as a pharaoh.

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