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[–] Nona_Biba 2 points (+2|-0)

Seconding the request that if she starts a crowdfunder, someone post it on Ovarit so we can all contribute

[–] rad-sage-fem 6 points (+6|-0)

Oh my god that is awful. If anyone finds out if there's any way we can support her (especially from outside Australia), please share!

[–] Lilith-Fair 4 points (+4|-0)

Is this for real? People can't post and like things on social media? WTH is happening? She needs to start a GoFundMe.

[–] [Deleted] 4 points (+4|-0)

I hope she fights this to the end, even if she ultimately loses. This is a hill worth dying on.

[–] Rabbot 5 points (+5|-0)

What are the comments she upvoted. I want to upvote them too

That’s dystopian AF.

More people are going to peak.

I don’t know why the trans are fighting us, they will lose in the end. The truth can’t be contained people:

BOYS HAVE A PENIS AND GIRLS HAVE A VAGINA

I can’t believe THIS is the feminist battle of our lifetime, a debate over the accuracy of the statement “boys have a penis, and girls have a vagina.”

[–] Rabbot 7 points (+7|-0) Edited

I feel like males wanted this to happen. How can we fight for womens rights if we are too busy fighting TRAs bullshit. Thats why most males dont care. They are all scum

[–] RubyRedPython 0 points (+0|-0)

This! This is a direct backlash to women gaining more rights in society and males are trying to destroy us from the inside out. TRAs are the trojan horse for those too blind to really see what's going on and unfortunately a lot of women are opening the door and welcoming them in with a smile.

[–] InvisibleWoman 14 points (+14|-0)

I am ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS about this! What kind of BULLSHIT is this?! Pay HIM $10 000 for LIKING comments?! Holy fuck what's next then, just reading this article and agreeing with it and suddenly KNOCK KNOCK IT'S THE THOUGHT POLICE.

[–] EvenMoreMinty 6 points (+6|-0)

Honest question, but didn't Britain literally have that happen? Do think that it is, sadly, the next logical step here.

[–] InvisibleWoman 3 points (+3|-0)

Damn you're right, there was a woman questioned by the police because she was thought to have transphobic beliefs. Insane

That poster that shows him in drag and says "A Future for All of Us" is pure horror. Talk about dystopia.

So Australia doesn't have free speech? Because simply stating a man is a man is NOT a death threat or something. And if he is a public figure, people can have at him. Look at what people do to politicians! They make effigies of them and burn them -- that is REALLY a violent threat isn't it? And it's legal (in the USA anyway). But saying "that man is a man" -- what, was he going to threaten suicide if someone stated reality?

Forcing a woman to LIE is BS. Fining her an outrageous sum for agreeing with reality is criminal. How can we stop all this insanity NOW, like right this minute? I can't take any more.

[–] june_atwood 1 points (+1|-0)

We don't have explicitly protected free speech, we have an implied Constitutional freedom of political communication. We also do not have explicit sex based protections, we did in the Sex Discrimination Act, but that has been eroded over the decades where men now use the legislation because "sex" is not explicitly female, therefore either male or female can rely on protections. Then "gender identity" crept into the legislation in 2013 and fucked everything. We even have CEDAW embedded in the legislation, but the judiciary ignore it. The only way we will be able to protect women here is if we are able to run a case to the High Court, similar to the strategies women are employing the UK. I want a judicial review of some of the crap going on down here, but we need money to fund it, and we need lawyers on side. At the moment, I'm only a law graduate, but I'm prepared to stick my neck out, but I don't have experience.

[–] bio-woman 6 points (+6|-0)

Australia does not have free speech in the same way that the US does, no. There are some laws around Freedom of Expression but there are many other laws that interfere with these (in this case it would be Anti-Discrimination laws). It is a shame that in these sort of cases where people have their feelings hurt by seeing something they don't like on social media, it is not sufficient for them to take action with the owner of the platform, be it Facebook or Twitter. A reasonable person would think that was the appropriate response. It is not an appropriate response for the government to intervene and fine and silence someone for their social media postings. The Equal Opportunity Commissions here are very heavy handed with women, and very unsympathetic when listening to women's concerns. The UK is of course similar to us, with their police interventions for social media postings.

That's hearbreaking knowing Australia and UK are so restricted with speech, esp. when it harms women. USA has the First Amendment precisely because nobody was going to tell an Englishman what he could or couldn't say! Colonies tend to preserve older traditions. Sad that Mother England, and then the Commonwealth (I guess Australia is still Commonwealth?) countries moved into WokeWorld. USA has too, but Free Speech is a "fight to the death" issue for most Americans. Not so much for our immigrants or young people though, and that scares me.

[–] june_atwood 2 points (+2|-0)

Australia is deeply misogynist, really atrocious. You should see the way some of our male politicians act in the legislative chamber because they have parliamentary privilege - Abbott, Hazard, Leyjohnhelm - all of them have been grossly, graphically and explicitly sexist.

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[–] PeakyLen 10 points (+10|-0)

I know it's not the point, but I notice Clinch is or was in the army. I see so many ex army TIMs. Is there some link with PTSD?

[–] KarousTattoos 6 points (+6|-0)

Textbook AGP. Extreme gender conformity to the point of preferring jobs thought to be for macho guys, strong homophobia, and extremely masculine pursuits are commonly seen in these men. They are also very gender conforming in childhood. Retconning that is a big part of their narratives, but they mostly cannot pull it off properly, because the stories they're trying to appropriate - those of homosexual transsexuals, who are extremely GNC from early years onwards - are the stories of boys they'd have relished bullying as kids.

It's a reaction to the fetish. Getting aroused at wearing women's underwear, which often starts in their teens, is something many of them feel very ashamed of. So they seek to reassert their macho nature and overcompensate by choosing jobs like joining the army.

Some will take about this openly, most deny it in public. But, IIRC, AGP is the most researched paraphilia, so there is decades worth of empirical data from many thousands of these men and countless studies analysing them, all presenting this kind of picture.

[–] jelliknight 15 points (+15|-0)

From reading the personal experiences of some of them, it's more that going into the army is a way of papering over insecurity. "Rar rar! I'm the manliest of manly men!" and then that doesn't work so they look for something else.

[–] [Deleted] 18 points (+18|-0)

I didn’t realize until quite recently how much Australia DGAF about free speech.

[–] june_atwood 1 points (+1|-0)

It is horrifying, we radfems down here have been trying desperately to get some traction. Radio silence. No one gives a f**k, except Senator Claire Chandler, and now she is being hauled in front of the Tasmanian Equality Commission for writing an op-ed on the integrity of girl's sports. Things are very bad here. I'm meeting with a State Senator next week who is concerned about sports - he is older and conservative but he's actually reached out to me in relation to some stuff I wrote on sports, and he wants to do something. But sex-self id is already in federal legislation here. It might be too little too late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnCa-bQuA9o

[–] jelliknight 26 points (+26|-0) Edited

I just uploaded the same link.

Please Aussies: Call or email your complaint about the misogyny of this to the ACT Civil and Administrative Tribunal. Call and email your state and federal representatives.

Everyone else, please share on twitter, facebook, etc. Let's make #HESAMAN go viral

Women have a right to political speech. Men don't have the right to never have their feelings hurt.

[–] june_atwood 15 points (+15|-0)

Will be doing that. I think we need to make a complaint against Bridget on basis of vilification laws against protected category of sex.

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