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[–] hmimperialtortie 33 points (+34|-1)

It is revolting.

Wtf is “aphobic”? Who gives a damn about people not fucking?

[–] [Deleted] 33 points (+34|-1)

And why is everything a letter now? I don't care how people fuck at all, so long as it's with consenting adults. I don't want to hear about it, and I don't want to have to remember it. It's very weird that these people always lead with their fuck lives: "Hello, my name is John-Anna, and I'm a lesbian trans asexual biqueer trendergender enby."

Who cares? I'm not even going to remember your name when you turn around. I'm probably letterphobic.

[–] hmimperialtortie 16 points (+16|-0)

“I’m probably letterphobic” Love it! 😄

They’re all so desperate to be Speshul and Oppressed. All they show with this crap is that they’re spoiled brats with zero problems, personalities, or lives.

[–] pennygadget 4 points (+4|-0)

They’re all so desperate to be Speshul and Oppressed. All they show with this crap is that they’re spoiled brats with zero problems, personalities, or lives.

Someone should inform those children that a lack of oppression is a good thing. And that, if you have time to naval gaze about your pronouns and sexuality labels, you have no real problems in life

[–] DorothyMantooth 8 points (+8|-0)

Young people these days seem to be taught that they must have an "identity," and that their "identity" is of utmost importance. I think that's where a lot of this is coming from, personally. You can't just be a person, who have to "identify" as something, and these superficial things are suddenly your entire self. Like, you can't be a person who likes a whole big variety of things and has lots of thoughts and opinions and feelings and experiences, and it takes time to get to know you; instead you're a Queer Cis Anarchist Environmentalist, or something.

IMO it's just reducing/encouraging people to reduce others into nothing but political boxes; dehumanizing as a way to control people and convince them to disregard and hate others--to convince them to "other" anyone who isn't in their boxes and see them as enemies. Maybe that sounds paranoid and like I'm into conspiracies, but it's genuinely how I feel, at least sometimes (to some degree).

[–] tahmahrah 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

0 about this sounds conspiratorial to me, and if anyone sees these words and thinks it does, then I would argue they're either clueless/ignorant, or just so afraid of reality that they've deluded themselves out of the ability to think critically.

I've noticed that the left, collectively, has a propensity to outright dismiss a plethora of very valid ideas based upon this almost fanatic aversion to anything remotely in the orbit of right-wing. All under the premise that it's a conspiracy theory. It's become a Boogeyman bad word that's vague enough to be zealously labeled on any kind of wrongthink, and people eat it up. X or Y cannot be true because it's a hoax/conspiracy theory/unfounded conservative hogwash.

Now people are so afraid of being seen as conspiracy theorists, that they stay silent or preempitvely apologize for voicing opinions that are often, in my opinion, totally rational and cogent.

We would all do well to examine exactly how and why that is, and what this phobia of being perceived as a conspiracy theorist implies.

Ironically, I am bordering on sounding conspiratorial myself, but I stand by every word that I've said.

[–] pennygadget 5 points (+5|-0)

I'm letterphobic as well. When someone introduces themselves by announcing their fuck preferences, I run in the other direction

[–] Midnight 4 points (+4|-0)

"It's very weird that these people always lead with their fuck lives"

This does my head in... These people are so porn sick that thier only personality trait is thier sex life & thier hobby is self-absobed navel gazling.

[–] nf 7 points (+7|-0)

it's about asexuals - says google

UGH

I bet it’s teenagers who call themselves asexual because hello, they haven’t developed sexual attraction yet (which is NORMAL) and pretend that makes them part of the alphabet soup.

[–] levitation 0 points (+0|-0)

this is extremely common. i'm glad kids have found a "cool" way out of our increasingly pedophilic societal norms, though, even if they're obnoxious.

[–] tahmahrah 1 points (+1|-0)

Asexual phobic? This is a total guess. And biphobic...like against nonbinary people? Or bi people? I wonder what their logic is for the latter.

[–] yikesforever -1 points (+0|-1)

Well, you see it everywhere here on Ovarit. People say asexuality doesn't exist or asexuals have some sort of medical problem, etc. I kinda hate this site for the way people talk about asexuality here.

[–] [Deleted] 27 points (+28|-1)

I’m not a lesbian but this is one of the biggest reasons I stay away from LGBT spaces now. everyone I met at the “queer” club at my university either openly hated lesbians or were transitioning from being lesbians to being NB or “gay trans men”.

[–] Zola 7 points (+7|-0)

it's an excuse to hate women minus the blatancy of it.

[–] shewolfoffrance 24 points (+24|-0)

"Aphobic" as in lesbians hating asexuals? That is not a thing. Lesbians don't tend to foam at the mouth when it's brought to their attention that not everyone in the world finds them sexually attractive.

[–] goatsauce 21 points (+21|-0)

Lesbians have gone underground, more or less. I've found the odd pockets of them here and there in specific sports and hobbies, but mostly you can't be out and proud anymore. Every lesbian space has been invaded or dissolved into queer land. I remember events were hard to find even four or five years ago, and now they're totally gone. Lesbians are already prone to loneliness, and none of the current climate really helps. I've been watching the L Word with a friend because I've never seen it, and I almost don't want to watch it because it's too painful to think of a world where it was that easy and straightforward to love and desire other women.

[–] asparagus1 7 points (+8|-1) Edited

I wish I would've known this before throwing away all my life opportunities because I thought the world actually accepted lesbians. As soon as I left my (homophobic) community I regretted it, but they won't take me back now, and there's nowhere for me to go. the lgbt community is revolting and their hatred is on par or maybe even worse than what I experienced in my religious community.

[–] goatsauce 3 points (+3|-0)

There are still lesbians out there! They're harder to find, but they are safer than the ultra religious. I've found that it helps joining groups that are more naturally female-focused, even if there aren't lesbians there. I'm involved in a lot of community outreach and volunteering, neither of which seems to attract the gender crowd, but do attract a lot of older women and mothers. It's not a huge time commitment and it's a great way to meet people. Volunteering kind of filters out people who are really awful, because they won't do the work in the end. If you search for things like "womyn's land" you might find something, too. You may also find lesbians if you look for things that naturally attract lesbians, like softball, soccer, etc. I've had good luck in woodworking classes, too. All you need is to find a few lesbians and then you'll usually find a whole bunch of them lol

[–] pennygadget 6 points (+7|-1)

Its so backwards. Lesbians have to operate events in secret because, if they advertise a large "Lesbians Only" event online; it'll be invaded by TIMs and they'll be required to let men in or be shut down and labeled as bigots.

[–] sonic_fiXXation 19 points (+19|-0)

We need to make a noise about this because general society is learning to follow suit. It is really shocking, and scary, when the 'good people' around you, who you know have the morals to condemn homophobia don't understand how same-sex attraction works and use those morals to condem what they perceive as transphobia, completely oblivious to the homophobia in the condemnation.

[–] Whatshername TheySeeMeRowling 17 points (+17|-0)

I've experienced similar. I haven't spent as much time in those spaces as OP so I haven't heard the worst, but there's definitely an atmosphere of "hating lesbians is permissible" and the stuff I did hear made me distance myself from those communities.

[–] comradeconradical 15 points (+15|-0)

This continues to blow my mind. Why is it so accepted to hate lesbians? Why is it completely unacceptable to criticize gay men and trans people, but lesbians are so openly vilified?

Is it really just porn culture and misogyny? We cannot forget how powerful these are, but my god do people not hear themselves?

[–] Aeschleah 19 points (+20|-1) Edited

Because lesbians, by definition, are not attracted to men, and men of every creed, dress sense, religion, you name it, takes it as a personal attack that there’s a group of women who do not want, and will not worship their penis. They just don’t get it, and because men are two dimensional, if they don’t understand it, they either fetishise it, or want to destroy it.

Even straight women to an extent don’t understand lesbians, because how can we not want to be with men?! I’ve had straight women come out and say how can we not like dick?! And how much they’d miss it which, given the orgasm gap for straight women is some Stockholm syndrome bullshit.

So basically in my opinion, the LGB sphere was always dominated by gay men who didn’t understand lesbians because of our unfathomable dislike of dick, and therefore they looked down on lesbians, HSTS felt we were a waste of lady parts they themselves could’ve had to please the male overlords, and the AGPs are pissed that their fantasy of looking like an honest to god woman is ruined by the fact lesbians, women sexually attracted to women, don’t want to fuck them because they’re men, which isn’t validating their existence, and then you have the internalised misogyny of the handmaiden, who was raised to kiss balls and believe anything that comes out of the mouth of a dick haver is gospel fact.

[–] TinyAngryLesbian 14 points (+14|-0)

This is exactly it in my experience. It is not so much lesbians same sex attraction that gets us hate but instead our complete lack of opposite sex attraction.

It feels like so many different groups take it upon themselves to admonish or outright punish us for not being attracted to males. There is the obvious straight male fetishistization of lesbians (and I included AGPs in that straight male category) but wow are straight and bi women sometimes truly awful towards lesbians. My gf's sister once told her lesbians are "immature for not liking dick." What a fucking stupid take that was.

And then of course there are the self-hating lesbians who are so immersed in queer culture that they give up on being seen as women in order to maintain their exclusive same sex attraction or worse they are coerced into abusive relationships with the opposite sex.

[–] mathlover 11 points (+11|-0)

I think het men don't actually believe that any women are, or could ever be, lesbians. They don't like when their overtures to het/bi women are rebuffed but they know they can simply wear down the resistance of a lot of hetbi women by continuing to pursue and pressure those women. And even if individual women turn them down, it's for another man. When lesbians continue to refuse all men, men just see lesbians as particularly resistant hetbi women, which infuriates them.

Gay men also don't believe that any women could possibly not want dick. They don't even understand how most men don't want dick.

And hetbi women seem to have real anger about lesbians sort of "getting away with" not having to suffer womens lot in life, which is being attracted to males and all the garbage that goes with that. I think they don't believe either that lesbians absolutely ONLY want to be with other women.

[–] llkit 11 points (+11|-0)

Actually saw a thread that expressed this sentiment out in the wild yesterday. Quite depressing how other lesbian women where piling on.

[–] sashimi33 10 points (+10|-0)

Thank goodness, I wouldn't want to spend a second with them either. When lesbians starting getting mainstream, people just started appropriating the LGBTQIABBQ identity and this is where we ended up.

[–] alicetwilight 8 points (+8|-0)

Hating women is always acceptable! Especially if said women totally reject men, not wanting penis is the biggest sin of all! Burn the lesbian witches!

[–] tahmahrah 3 points (+3|-0)

I'm sorry to all my lesbian sisters out there. I'm hetero myself, unfortunately, but I for one refuse to remain silent in the face of this bullshit. No more nice.

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