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(Reposting this from /o/Books, since many of the recs I received were actually TV shows)

Recently, I started reading Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series of classical nautical adventure novels. A key component of these novels (and what attracted me to them in the first place) is the deep and abiding friendship between the two main characters, Jack Aubrey, a Royal Navy officer, and Stephen Maturin, a physician and natural philosopher. The men are as unlike as can be in background/personality, yet bond over their shared love of music, and throughout the series go on many adventures together and make many sacrifices for each other. Their friendship extends through most of their lives.

It struck me that I had never heard of a story featuring such a long-lasting, devoted platonic friendship between a man and a woman. We have Aubrey and Maturin, Holmes and Watson, Kirk and Spock, Frodo and Samwise... but when it comes to male/female couples, they inevitably amble down the tired, well-trodden path of sex/romance, marriage, and babies. Usually, this also involves butchering the female character's personality so she is overjoyed to have those babies, despite showing zero inclination before meeting our intrepid male hero.

So, here's my question. Can you recommend any TV shows or related media that depict a deep platonic relationship between a man and a woman? Some suggestions from the other thread: Janeway and Chakotay (Star Trek: Voyager), Leslie and Ron (Parks and Recreation), Holmes and Watson (Elementary), and John Steed and Emma Peel (The Avengers).

(Reposting this from /o/Books, since many of the recs I received were actually TV shows) Recently, I started reading Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series of classical nautical adventure novels. A key component of these novels (and what attracted me to them in the first place) is the deep and abiding friendship between the two main characters, Jack Aubrey, a Royal Navy officer, and Stephen Maturin, a physician and natural philosopher. The men are as unlike as can be in background/personality, yet bond over their shared love of music, and throughout the series go on many adventures together and make many sacrifices for each other. Their friendship extends through most of their lives. It struck me that I had never heard of a story featuring such a long-lasting, devoted *platonic* friendship between a man and a woman. We have Aubrey and Maturin, Holmes and Watson, Kirk and Spock, Frodo and Samwise... but when it comes to male/female couples, they inevitably amble down the tired, well-trodden path of sex/romance, marriage, and babies. Usually, this also involves butchering the female character's personality so she is overjoyed to have those babies, despite showing zero inclination before meeting our intrepid male hero. So, here's my question. Can you recommend any TV shows or related media that depict a deep platonic relationship between a man and a woman? Some suggestions from [the other thread](https://ovarit.com/o/Books/30928/stories-with-a-lifelong-platonic-friendship-between-a-man-and-a-woman): Janeway and Chakotay (Star Trek: Voyager), Leslie and Ron (Parks and Recreation), Holmes and Watson (Elementary), and John Steed and Emma Peel (The Avengers).

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[–] overandout 7 points (+8|-1)

Zoe and Mal on Firefly

Someone already said Leslie and Ron on Parks and Rec.

Sisko and Jadzia Dax on Deep Space Nine

I dunno about lifelong but I always thought the relationship between Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter on the Justice League cartoon was nice.

I really like the friendship between Ted and Lilly in HIMYM. She's not just the best friend's partner, they have their own bond.

Although it's a show about highly dysfunctional assholes, there's something about the friendship between Archer and Pam in Archer, that deviates from the other fucked up relationships in the show.

Oh, I hadn't thought of Archer and Pam! They're one of my favorite "bro" couples. Love how Pam's just as good if not better than Archer at fighting, and the two respect each other in the field.

[–] jvsmine 3 points (+3|-0)

Dee on It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

She does sleep with Charlie on the show at some point, but it's played for laughs. Otherwise, everyone in the group actually finds Dee repulsive. they're all sexist assholes but again, played for laughs, and like... I dunno, because no one is trying to fuck her constantly, it's still somehow refreshing. she's just one of the boys, through and through, ultimately.

Russian Doll actually has a great male/female friendship where, again the characters do sleep together once, but it is played for laughs and imo as a way to tell the fans 'this ain't what's happening here' but so far they've only been friends a short time. The friendship reminded me powerfully of my own best friend and I, he's the only male who I've fully trusted to not have sexual feelings for me, been friends for about four years now.

[–] notyourfetish 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

or related media

If anyone's into video games, there's Varric (male) and Hawke (female) from Dragon Age 2. They have a very touching, very loyal lifelong friendship.

The developers thought about giving them a romance option, but I've always been very glad they did not and that the friendship is canon.

[–] Xact 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

Xander and Willow and Buffy on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In the beginning of the series, Willow has a crush on Xander, but Xander has a crush on Buffy. Xander and Willow have a short affair that really comes to a jaw dropping conclusion. But after that (seasons 4-7), all of their feelings are 100% platonic. It's a really great and accurate depiction of male-female lifelong relationships because I think a lot of opposite sex attracted people go through the motions early on with feelings towards male or female best friends that eventually develop into an extremely platonic, sibling type of connection. Xander is a really good example of a male best friend.

I just started watching this show called Alone Together, which is a comedy (so it's not deep), which is based around a platonic male and female best friend duo navigating life in LA as self described "6's".

[–] meowmeowbeenz 1 points (+1|-0)

I second Elementary - their relationship is one of my all time favourites. It’s completely platonic, based on mutual respect and comes with a lot of character growth. Plus Lucy Liu is just great in it

[–] DrStrangelove 0 points (+0|-0)

If you're into anime/manga, Dorohedoro has multiple platonic female-male friendships, including the two main characters, that never become romantic. Written by a woman and very interesting story.