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I've just finished my first watch of Voyager, and in the past year also watched DS9 for the first time, and I feel like we've regressed so much when it comes to tv characters. Voyager has strong women, who are sensitive; strong men, who are sensitive; men who believe in logic; women who believe in logic; men who are a bit goofy, but have important skills and get respect; women who are angry, but have important skills and get respect.

And for none of these characters the fact that "I'm a man but sensitive" or "I'm a woman but a really good leader" is a big deal. It's just who they are, but it's not their character arch.

I love it and feel like we've lost this completely on tv. If you're not stereotypically man / woman, that's the story for your character. So boring!

So, yeah, I just started an immediate re-watch because the Spaceship is my safe place.

I've just finished my first watch of Voyager, and in the past year also watched DS9 for the first time, and I feel like we've regressed so much when it comes to tv characters. Voyager has strong women, who are sensitive; strong men, who are sensitive; men who believe in logic; women who believe in logic; men who are a bit goofy, but have important skills and get respect; women who are angry, but have important skills and get respect. And for none of these characters the fact that "I'm a man but sensitive" or "I'm a woman but a really good leader" is a big deal. It's just who they are, but it's not their character arch. I love it and feel like we've lost this completely on tv. If you're not stereotypically man / woman, that's the story for your character. So boring! So, yeah, I just started an immediate re-watch because the Spaceship is my safe place.

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That's something I love about Star Trek. It's a shame they put a "non-binary" character on Discovery, which is a huge step back, and have been trying to trans Jadzia.

[–] Dark_Mercy 4 points (+4|-0)

and have been trying to trans Jadzia

I saw a meme a while ago about how, one of the klingons (I don't know who) that was friends with Curzon (spelling?) Like respected trans people, "be like him" but they all talk about Curzon. Sisko calls her "Old Man" she doesn't care.

I've seen this meme. Complete misunderstanding of the nature of the Trill.

[–] Dark_Mercy 4 points (+4|-0)

And if I remember it right it feels more like it should be addressing trans people, since she doesn't get offended by "old man" she knows she is Jadzia Dax, but if people remember Dax as Curzon that's okay with her.

Something, like that.