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I've just finished my first watch of Voyager, and in the past year also watched DS9 for the first time, and I feel like we've regressed so much when it comes to tv characters. Voyager has strong women, who are sensitive; strong men, who are sensitive; men who believe in logic; women who believe in logic; men who are a bit goofy, but have important skills and get respect; women who are angry, but have important skills and get respect.

And for none of these characters the fact that "I'm a man but sensitive" or "I'm a woman but a really good leader" is a big deal. It's just who they are, but it's not their character arch.

I love it and feel like we've lost this completely on tv. If you're not stereotypically man / woman, that's the story for your character. So boring!

So, yeah, I just started an immediate re-watch because the Spaceship is my safe place.

I've just finished my first watch of Voyager, and in the past year also watched DS9 for the first time, and I feel like we've regressed so much when it comes to tv characters. Voyager has strong women, who are sensitive; strong men, who are sensitive; men who believe in logic; women who believe in logic; men who are a bit goofy, but have important skills and get respect; women who are angry, but have important skills and get respect. And for none of these characters the fact that "I'm a man but sensitive" or "I'm a woman but a really good leader" is a big deal. It's just who they are, but it's not their character arch. I love it and feel like we've lost this completely on tv. If you're not stereotypically man / woman, that's the story for your character. So boring! So, yeah, I just started an immediate re-watch because the Spaceship is my safe place.

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It's essentially why I watched so much of Voyager even when the plots actually bore me a lot haha. I just love everyone so much, every single character is amazingly constructed, TNG is years away from being that sophisticated with the cast. The only strong female character, who wasn't completely riddled with stereotyping was Dr. Crusher.

I could easily see any of the Voyager characters turning into a laughable stereotype had they featured in TNG, for example: the relationship between Neelix and Kes would've been laughed at, and both of them would've had completely different, goofy and stereotypical characters, Neelix would've been a comical relief and Kes just a random hot girl. B'Elanna is Lt. Yar done right, and so on and so forth.

Also, Captain Janeway, is in my humble opinion, the best Captain, although I still have to watch more of DS9, but the way Janeway handles things is my favorite, she never resorts to treating her crew like idiots, and she doesn't fall into feminine stereotyping, and still goes through female struggles and injustice.

To me, it's bonkers that so few shows do this right. Specially when it comes to sci-fi and fantasy: you have a whole world to imagine, and you still choose to create an universe where women are inherently inferior.