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We all know that Hulu and Netflix are extraordinarily TRA friendly, with incredible pandering in recent shows toward trans orthodoxy. Trans characters are typically Too Pure For This World, and everyone who doesn't get it or suggests some alternative is a horrible bigot who deserves to be shunned and left firmly on the wrong side of history.

Have you seen anything recently that seemed a bit more skeptical, even if it might not have been intentional? I just started watching Flack with Anna Paquin, which is about a PR team that handles celebrity scandals. There's an episode where an aging comedian gets into a heckling contest with an audience member who is a TIM comedian, and the PR people try to educate him about trans issues by having him talk to activists. I DON'T think the showrunners intended this but the actor portraying the TIM comedian came across as SO narcissistic and opportunistic and entitled. When the poor little unpaid intern opened up to him about feeling left out in her office environment, he was like "You have the nerve to give a TRANSWOMAN a speech about feeling left out??"

The poor little unpaid intern is definitely the show's buttmonkey but she's 100% sympathetic, from the start. I feel like this moment highlighted just how easy it is to offend TIMs and made it a joke at the TIM's expense, even if the writers didn't intend it that way.

Have you seen any shows like this, especially recently?

We all know that Hulu and Netflix are extraordinarily TRA friendly, with incredible pandering in recent shows toward trans orthodoxy. Trans characters are typically Too Pure For This World, and everyone who doesn't get it or suggests some alternative is a horrible bigot who deserves to be shunned and left firmly on the wrong side of history. Have you seen anything recently that seemed a bit more skeptical, even if it might not have been intentional? I just started watching Flack with Anna Paquin, which is about a PR team that handles celebrity scandals. There's an episode where an aging comedian gets into a heckling contest with an audience member who is a TIM comedian, and the PR people try to educate him about trans issues by having him talk to activists. I DON'T think the showrunners intended this but the actor portraying the TIM comedian came across as SO narcissistic and opportunistic and entitled. When the poor little unpaid intern opened up to him about feeling left out in her office environment, he was like "You have the nerve to give a TRANSWOMAN a speech about feeling left out??" The poor little unpaid intern is definitely the show's buttmonkey but she's 100% sympathetic, from the start. I feel like this moment highlighted just how easy it is to offend TIMs and made it a joke at the TIM's expense, even if the writers didn't intend it that way. Have you seen any shows like this, especially recently?

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[–] EvaDemeter 16 points (+16|-0)

Anything with Ellen Page before transition? Hard for everyone to not notice how much happier and healthier she looked....

I liked the trans character on Penny Dreadful (it's an outlandish show to begin with, no TIM would have a debut ball in the 1890s, anymore than anyone would be a werewolf, vampire etc), but always find it a little interesting that the trans character gets dumped for the possibly the most radfem character of all time who assembles an army of women. I hope that was relatively spoiler free.

Posted this ages ago also, but the Norwegian show (available on HBO in the US and likely elsewhere) Beforeigners about people thrown into modern day Oslo from 3 different historical time periods (stone age, Viking era and Victorian) has a bit on modern people who've decided that they're "transtemporal" and transition to try to and appear as the 'beforeigners". Which really ticks off our heroine, a Viking age police officer in modern day Norway. Not remotely accidental, but threw it in anyway.

[–] DonKarnage 1 points (+1|-0)

Penny Dreadful was/is one of my favorite shows, and I actually didn't mind the TiM too much. You're right that the coming out ball for him was a thing that would never have happened in that era, but I looked at it as something Dorian just did for shock value, because he loved being debauched and gaudy. The TiM wasn't too distracting, and I think they played him well; he was very blatantly jealous of Lily, and showed some jealousy towards Vanessa. He was decieful and full of himself, and he didn't last too long.