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So, watched this last night, not quite all the way through, and it's a painful watch and potentially upsetting. And I thought the modern "woke" talk was unnecessary, but it's only a small part of the interviews.

They talk about how the festival was aimed at the "frat boy" type of young men, 18 - 25.

There were young women walking around topless to be "empowered" - and those that didn't sometimes had their clothing ripped off, and women were groped and raped right in the middle of the festival surrounded by people.

They ended up setting everything on fire. I'd heard about the violence and the rapes - but not the fact they burned everything down at the end.

As I watched this - I couldn't help it - the comments, the interviews and videos of the men, the things the men were saying...

It was everything you see online today. I hear a lot that the "manosphere" is somehow new, not something that existed before, and it frustrated me - because back in the 90's, teenage boys talked the same way. They just learned it in person.

Anyways - if you think the online "manosphere" must be new - then I challenge you to watch this, because even though Woodstock was more over the top, and men were more out in the open - it was an extreme version of what I saw from men at parties, at spring break, at concerts - it just was done out in the open where it was being video taped for once.

I think one of the things it did really well was talk about Grunge and Riot Grrl and it's messages - and the swing to violent anti-women music that came later. That resonates with me too.

So, watched this last night, not quite all the way through, and it's a painful watch and potentially upsetting. And I thought the modern "woke" talk was unnecessary, but it's only a small part of the interviews. They talk about how the festival was aimed at the "frat boy" type of young men, 18 - 25. There were young women walking around topless to be "empowered" - and those that didn't sometimes had their clothing ripped off, and women were groped and raped right in the middle of the festival surrounded by people. They ended up setting everything on fire. I'd heard about the violence and the rapes - but not the fact they burned everything down at the end. As I watched this - I couldn't help it - the comments, the interviews and videos of the men, the things the men were saying... It was everything you see online today. I hear a lot that the "manosphere" is somehow new, not something that existed before, and it frustrated me - because back in the 90's, teenage boys talked the same way. They just learned it in person. Anyways - if you think the online "manosphere" must be new - then I challenge you to watch this, because even though Woodstock was more over the top, and men were more out in the open - it was an extreme version of what I saw from men at parties, at spring break, at concerts - it just was done out in the open where it was being video taped for once. I think one of the things it did really well was talk about Grunge and Riot Grrl and it's messages - and the swing to violent anti-women music that came later. That resonates with me too.

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Really interested in watching this documentary!

I remember watching a video of the Offspring when I was a teenager and feeling so grateful to Dexter Holland for saying the following at Woodstock 99. It made me feel like I belonged at rock concerts too.

I see a lot of girls coming over the top here, crowdsurfing, and some of them are getting really groped, you know what I mean? And I think, just because a girl wants to go crowdsurfing or whatever, that doesn’t give a guy the right to molest her, you know what I’m saying? [cheers] So if you’re a guy and you see a girl passing overhead, just give her a break all right, you know what I’m saying? And if you’re a girl and you see a guy passing overhead, I want you to grab his fucking balls! [loud cheers and whoops]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tkirNHOAgt8

Until now I didn’t know about the wider events of Woodstock 99, but I remembered the video (it was seared into my 15 year old brain the first time I saw it 🥲) and looked it up, and lo and behold! Of course it was from Woodstock 99.

I could say, what a damning indictment of Woodstock that it was so bad it took a pop punk band most famous for songs consisting of “woah-ohs!” to point out the problems [you know what I mean?]… but Dexter Holland is really smart, has a PhD in biology, a pilots license, a hot sauce company… and apparently the balls to stand up to tens of thousands of rioting misogynists.